Two masts and two funnels. I have agreed in principle." her summer overhaul in the King George V dry dock. <<<<<< >>>>>>>. On 8th September 1951 the QUEEN ELIZABETH left Southampton on her 100th round voyage to New York since she entered passenger service in October 1946. Sir Percy Bates, dismayed at this prospect, wrote to the Chief of Naval Staff, Rear Admiral Burrough, for a decision on the ship's future. With Queen Mary she provided weekly luxury liner service between Southampton in the United Kingdom and New York City in the United States, via Cherbourg in France. With the passage of time the area of Hong Kong harbour where the SEAWISE UNIVERSITY (ex Cunard - White Star liner QUEEN ELIZABETH) lay has been filled in and a new airport built on the reclaimed land. Winter cruises from New York to the West Indies were poorly patronised and one was cancelled and replaced with an unscheduled Atlantic crossing. There are usually several boxes of records for each port of registry, each box containing an alphabetical range of ships names. Over a two-hour period engine revolutions were increased from 100 (17 knots) to 154 (26 knots). A year later, in January 1973, the old QUEEN ELIZABETH still lay in the harbour at Hong Kong, a burnt out hulk lying on her starboard side. However another of the still operational boilers was badly damaged: she was now down to just three. The route between America and Europe had characteristics very different from others, said Colonel Bates. Their high speeds allowed them to outrun hazards, principally German U-boats, usually allowing them to travel without a convoy. Search for crew lists and agreements from 1951 to 1994 at: The National Archives search our 10% sample by ships number inBT 99. She was there to launch the second of Cunard's superliners - the QUEEN ELIZABETH. Throughout the 'G.I. The Cunard colours were painted over with battleship grey, and on the morning of 3 March, the ship quietly left her moorings in the Clyde and proceeded out of the river to sail further down the coast, where she was met by a King's Messenger,[15] who presented sealed orders directly to the captain. She did, however, remain all the while under Cunard management with British officers and crew. On another occasion the Elizabeth had to go full astern because a yacht crossed her path, and as a result the liner's stern touched a mud bank. The Directors were faced with the almost unbelievable fact that the gross revenue of the Company for the year was calculated to be nearly 2.5 million down on 1930. In late 1968, Queen Elizabeth was sold to the Elizabeth Corporation, with 15% of the company controlled by a group of Philadelphia businessmen and 85% retained by Cunard. There was no call at Cherbourg; the ship was fully booked from Southampton and much work still needed to be done to make the harbour at the French port safe again. [25] However, the strategy did not prove successful, owing to the ship's deep draught, which prevented her from entering various island ports, her width, which prevented her from using the Panama Canal, and also her high fuel costs. The QUEEN ELIZABETH was the culmination of Sir Percy Bates' own initiative; the fulfilment of a long-cherished dream held by many shipowners; that a weekly trans-Atlantic ferry service should be maintained by two ships rather than by three, or even four (sometimes mismatched) vessels that had previously - and expensively - been required. The QUEEN ELIZABETH passed the Ambrose Channel Light Vessel off New York just before dawn on 21st October after a passage of 4 days, 16 hours and 18 minutes at an average speed of 27.99 knots. Before 1747 no systematic records of the crew of merchant ships were kept. They demanded 50 per man danger money-cum-bonus, but were given 30 plus 5 per month extra pay. [9] For this new tropical purpose, the ship received a major refit in 1965, with a new Lido deck added to her aft section, enhanced air conditioning, and an outdoor swimming pool. Dimensions, 987' x 118' King George VI had remained in London at the request of the Prime Minister. Built at the famed John Brown Shipyard in Clydebank, Queen Elizabeth was the largest passenger ship ever constructed, a title she held from her launch until 1996 when finally eclipsed He described it as 'a British understatement with a vengeance, as though the British world of ships and shiplovers looked the other way until she had gone. There were only five dry docks in the world which could accommodate the Elizabeth. The QUEEN ELIZABETH arrived back in the Clyde on 4th December 1965 and entered the Firth of Clyde dry dock at Greenock on 9th December. Honolulu was interested as were the Australians. WebRMS Queen Elizabeth Passenger Lists 1947-1954 RMS Queen Elizabeth, World's Largest Liner. the NORMANDIE, the QUEEN MARY and the QUEEN ELIZABETH. Cunard's finances were in a very strong state whilst those of White Star were very poor. The object of fitting the coil (one of the first to be so fitted) was hopefully to render the ship immune from magnetic mines by neutralising the ship's magnetic field. However, U.S. legislators had another surprise up their sleeve. It was eventually decided to send the QUEEN ELIZABETH to Canada for drydocking at Esquimalt. This left only Singapore and the QUEEN ELIZABETH would have to make two stops to take on fuel and water on her voyage from New York. WebQueen Elizabeth docked at Southampton in 1967. Their high speeds allowed them to outrun hazards, principally German U-boats, usually allowing them to travel without a convoy. 'The Times' in its special Cunard - White Star Supplement of 27th September 1938 (the date of the Elizabeth's launch) said that: 'no practicable installation of this type [gyro stabilisers] could possibly be of the slightest use in vessels the size of the QUEEN MARY and QUEEN ELIZABETH to date the safest and easiest crossings are secured by sheer size, coupled with good form design, bilge keels of practicable dimensions and careful experienced seamanship. The QUEEN ELIZABETH was not successful as a cruise ship. The King's Messenger was awaited as he would bring the order to sail. After anchoring off Aruba the SEAWISE UNIVERSITY drifted, dragging her anchor, out to deep water. Her propellers were removed and cleaned and the underwater hull cleaned and painted. Whilst on the G.I. WebRMS Queen Elizabeth Passenger Lists 1947-1954 RMS Queen Elizabeth, World's Largest Liner. After her launch the QUEEN ELIZABETH was towed round to the fitting-out berth where she would remain for the next sixteen months. This would have been the OCEANIC, whose keel was laid at Harland & Wolff's yard in 1928. May 11 - 16 First time more than 10,000 persons had traveled on any ship (9,880 troops, 875 crew). Any problems that were encountered were resolved by the foremen concerned by sending in extra men to assist temporarily with the work that had fallen behind and bring the construction work back to its timetable. The Cunard Line carried 177,547 passengers across the North Atlantic in 1961, 30,000 below the previous year's total. Sir Percy Bates stressed that, The NORMANDIE had one edge on the QUEEN MARY in being aesthetically more pleasing through her revolutionary streamlining and lack of visible deck 'clutter'. Flt.Lt. It was proposed that the Cunard Steamship Company and the Oceanic Steamship Company (the White Star Line) would both sell their North Atlantic fleets and assets, including '534', to a new company to be called Cunard - White Star Limited. [6] This proved to be problematic, for the ship's engines and boilers were in poor condition after several years of neglect. After 1861 only a sample of crew lists and agreements and log books are held at The National Archives. When Cunard requested that the Americans send over an inspector to approve the improvement work as it progressed, the authorities declined. Dredging had not been completed at Port Everglades so Commodore Marr was instructed to cruise the Elizabeth slowly down the coast to 'show the flag'. The first day was Monday 26th February and just after noon, escorted by six tugs, the new ship left the fitting-out basin at Clydebank and proceeded down the River Clyde to an anchorage at the Tail of the Bank. Great steps forward were being made in both these fields. The agreements were between master and crew and are also called Articles of agreement. Rear Admiral Carruthers Joseph William. Due to the outbreak of the Second World War, these two events were postponed and Cunard's plans were shattered. WebThe National Records of Scotland holds agreements and crew lists under the reference BT 3, covering 1867-1913, for Scottish ships only. From the outset the intention had been to operate a two-ship service on the North Atlantic. Sir Percy Bates said that he liked to think that the Queens had, by their troop carrying capacities, shortened the war by a whole year. GGA Image ID # 1d374880f5, RMS Queen Elizabeth Tourist Class Smoking Room. The QUEEN ELIZABETH of 1938 never visited the port of Liverpool, but on her stern were the words QUEEN ELIZABETH LIVERPOOL. The NORMANDIE - the QUEEN MARY's arch rival on the North Atlantic. In 1928 the Germans launched the BREMEN and the EUROPA. The ELIZABETH just before she sailed from Port Everglades. Over the next three days the ship took on eighteen of her twenty-six lifeboats. The keel, boilers and engines remained at the bottom of the harbour, and the area was marked as "Foul" on local sea charts, warning ships not to try to anchor there. She was nonetheless a popular ship. The two funnels were self-supporting and braced internally to give a cleaner-looking appearance. [6] The two liners were replaced with the new, more economical Queen Elizabeth 2. Queen Elizabeth was retired after her final crossing to New York, on 8 December 1968. Because of a strike by New York tugboat men there was a possibility that the QUEEN ELIZABETH would be diverted to Halifax. Captain Marr decided to signal for tugs. The year 1960 proved to be another good one for Cunard. Winter cruises from New York to the West Indies were poorly patronised and one was cancelled and replaced with an unscheduled Atlantic crossing. The maiden voyage had been arranged to depart from Southampton on 16th October 1946. As a result only twelve boilers were needed for the QUEEN ELIZABETH, rather than the twenty-four in the, Another obvious difference between the two ships was the lack of a forward well deck on the new QUEEN ELIZABETH. However, because of the prestigious nature of the, On 14th April 1947 the QUEEN ELIZABETH was homeward bound and after leaving Cherbourg encountered thick fog in the Channel. This meant that the crew had to re-sign on foreign-going Articles. To identify records held in local archives, searchour catalogueand refine your results using the filters. Rear Admiral Carruthers Joseph William. One detonation was heard. These are undeniable facts. They were filed at the Register Office of Merchant Seamen, the forerunner of the Registrar General of Shipping and Seamen (RGSS). Use the search box contained withinBT 98to search by ships Official Number and date. The loyalty that she was given by her crew, the lifeblood of any ship, was reflected in the service given to her passengers who patronised the ship in vast numbers time and time again. Mr Tung proposed to name his ship the SEAWISE UNIVERSITY. The salvage attempt at the first suitable high tide failed and the, The QUEEN ELIZABETH never enjoyed the same affection that the Cunard men held for the QUEEN MARY, being described as the 'colder' of the two ships. THE CUNARD - WHITE STAR LINER 'QUEEN ELIZABETH'. There was a great rumpus and the yacht owner was traced. Captain Townley discovered that he was to take the ship directly to New York in the then neutral United States without stopping, or even slowing to drop off the Southampton harbour pilot who had embarked on at Clydebank, and to maintain strict radio silence. August 2 - 7 First time a complete division was carried on any ship. A 'Farewell Dinner' was held at sea on Sunday 3rd November and the following day the QUEEN ELIZABETH arrived back at Southampton for the last time, coming to the end of the career for which she had been designed. 83,673 Gross Tons -- 2,314 Passengers. The market could only assume 2,700,000 of the risk. Any search results will be divided into alphabetical ranges according to the initial letter of the ships name. WebThe eight ships which were passed into the ownership of the new concern were - ALPS, ANDES, BRITISH QUEEN, DAMASCUS, LEBANON, KARNAK, TENERIFFE and TAURUS. The work, Cunard estimated, would cost 750,000. When he asked for questions, one boy shot up his arm and asked: "How big were the frying pans?" Altogether the QUEEN ELIZABETH made 35 round voyages across the North Atlantic on the 'G.I. 83,673 Gross Tons -- 2,314 Passengers. Many of the QUEEN ELIZABETH's fittings had been placed ashore in New York, Sydney and Singapore when she was converted into a troopship and all these globally scattered items had to be returned to Southampton for refurbishment, assembly, sorting and fitting. The Cunard Board had decided, therefore, in view of the changing pattern of the passenger business, much of which could be attributed to political anxiety, that it would be foolish at this juncture to embark on a new capital ship. The QUEEN ELIZABETH leaving the fitting-out berth at John Brown's. The QUEEN ELIZABETH was ready for her trials in early October and sailed for the Clyde on the sixth of the month. These records, which collectively date from 1747 to the 1990s, can providebrief details of ships, the voyages they took and their crew. To many, her appearance must have come as a bit of a surprise for no longer was she in pristine Cunard paintwork of black hull and white superstructure, but she had been completely repainted in dull uniform Admiralty grey. The two ships' real potential had yet to be appreciated. Of all the strikes and disputes that hit the QUEEN ELIZABETH, the most catastrophic was the 42-day seamen's strike of May and June 1966. ', The QUEEN ELIZABETH slips away from Southampton for the, last time in the early morning fog of 28th November 1968. The climate of southern Florida was much harder on Queen Elizabeth than the climate of southern California was on Queen Mary. The superheated steam needed to be cooled to normal working temperature before slowing the ship could even be considered. On the bridge there was the faint sensation of a slight, lurching jolt which some on board never even felt. John Brown Image The queen is greeted by Sir Percy Bates of Cunard John Brown Image The front cover of the official launching booklet for the Queen Elizabeth ", The QUEEN ELIZABETH docking on the north side of Cunard's Pier 90, in the North River, Manhattan. Her carrying capacity was over 15,000 troops and over 900 crew. REINA DEL PACIFICO PACIFIC STEAM NAVIGATION. You are unlikely to find records by searching for the names of ships or seamen, as the records have not been indexed in that way. The ship sat like a giant beacon in the middle of Clydebank, visible for miles around. The NORMANDIE had one edge on the QUEEN MARY in being aesthetically more pleasing through her revolutionary streamlining and lack of visible deck 'clutter'. The ship was then secured so that no one could board her without prior permission, including port officials. The salvage tug RESCUE arrived on 16th February as the SEAWISE UNIVERSITY continued her southward drift through the Windward Passage into the Caribbean. Use this guide for advice on how to find British merchant shipping records known as crew lists and agreements, originally known as muster books, and log books. On board was the ship's namesake, Queen Elizabeth, and her two daughters, Princesses Elizabeth and Margaret. We can either copy our records onto paper or deliver them to you digitally, Visit us in Kew to see original documents or view online records for free, Consider paying for The Hales Trophy, awarded for the Atlantic speed record, left Southampton on 8th November 1952 on board the new holder, the UNITED STATES, which crossed from New York to Bishop Rock at 35.59 knots on her maiden voyage. The popularity of the two, The first hint of competition from the airlines came in October 1951 and this resulted in speeding up the turn-round of the ', From the mid 1940s until the mid 1950s both the, The unreliability of statistics - or should it be said the ability to interpret them in several ways - is illustrated in the case of the UNITED STATES and the QUEEN ELIZABETH. August 2 - 7 First time a complete division was carried on any ship. [citation needed], As a troopship, Queen Elizabeth left Singapore on 11 February, and on 23 February 1942 Queen Elizabeth secretly arrived in Esquimalt, British Columbia, Canada. On 28th July 1948 King George VI and Queen Elizabeth, accompanied by their younger daughter Princess Margaret Rose, were received on board the QUEEN ELIZABETH, the flagship of Britain's merchant fleet. Labour disputes at sea and ashore also menaced the liner's schedule and on such occasions she was used as a massive pawn in various disputes involving tugmen, dockers, longshoremen or the crew. This is not given in the Merchant seaman registers 1835-1857 until 1854. The UNITED STATES took the 'Blue Riband' on her maiden voyage. Cunard White Star Tourist Class, January 1949. Coincidentally, just one week later, the EMPRESS OF CANADA was burnt out in Gladstone Dock at Liverpool. Speed varied between 7 and 11 knots, with the higher speed using 300 tons of oil per day. Use the search box in BT 99 to search by name of ship or official number. The hull was cut into sections of up to 250 tons each and, in all, some 45,000 tons of metal were lifted from the wreck. The Philadelphia businessmen still held a small interest in the new company and would lease the ship from Cunard for $2 million a year. WebScenes on the main podium prior the launching, the two Princesses are notable, especially Princess Elizabeth , our future Queen! The steamer observed by Kessler had been travelling at speed. Cunard White Star Tourist Class, January 1949. When a speed of 25 knots had been reached and maintained for one hour, the escorting warships were informed that the 'engine trials' had been satisfactory and that there was no objection to their standing down. All these record series are indexed on theRecord Search database. On 16th May 1966, just six weeks after completing her overhaul on the Clyde, the QUEEN ELIZABETH became the first major casualty of the strike and was laid up at Southampton. This would mean an expensive 'light' voyage to New York and, if the inspection failed, an equally expensive 'light' return trip back to the U.K. Sir Basil Smallpiece said: Like a Greek tragedy the tale of woe gathered force. For pre-1747 records, you need to look speculatively through material from other government departments or courts that may have had an interest in merchant navy affairs, such as: Use theadvanced search in Discovery, our catalogue, to search for records using the department codes above and relevant keywords such as ships, shipping, or manifest. Between April 1941 and March 1945 the QUEEN ELIZABETH steamed 492,635 miles and carried 811,324 'passengers'. Three years later it was announced that the QUEEN ELIZABETH would return to the Clyde in December 1965 for extensive improvements by her builders, John Brown & Company. Try search terms such as ship register or registrar general shipping and seamen. These were installed two, three and five to a tier in every available space and the QUEEN ELIZABETH left San Francisco in a small convoy bound for Sydney with eight thousand troops on board which were needed to bolster Australia's depleted forces until some of her own troops could be recalled from the Middle East. The 5 million was released on 28th July. The outcome was the Cunard (Insurance) Act, passed in December 1930. Click onBT 98to search by date and name of British port where the ship was registered. Often the description of a mans conduct, listed under the two headings General Conduct and Ability in Seamanship, consisted of nothing more than the letters VG (Very Good). Of all the arguments used in the United States to support the demand for subsidies for American merchant shipping, none has been advanced with greater potency than that America had to rely on foreign ships in the Second World War, and could not afford to do so again. wartime home port, for the very last time on 12th March 1966. Scrapping seemed to provide the obvious, almost humane, answer to dealing with the problem of the QUEEN ELIZABETH. The loyalty that she was given by her crew, the lifeblood of any ship, was reflected in the service given to her passengers who patronised the ship in vast numbers time and time again. It took about an hour to manoeuvre the ship's head downstream towards the sea and gradually a crowd of several hundred gathered to watch the QUEEN ELIZABETH slip quietly, almost furtively, by. Two months later the purchasers realised that the river was not deep enough. The Company had replaced a number of its smaller ships, but there were no large replacements for the express service at the planning stage. Originally vetoing the idea of allowing her portrait to be hung in the ship when the liner was launched, Queen Elizabeth had now relented. Chesney Henry. During almost two decades following the end of the Second World War, young men in Britain were 'called up' for two years of National Service in the armed forces. On 29 December her engines were tested for the first time, running from 0900 to 1600 with the propellers disconnected to monitor her oil and steam operating temperatures and pressures. WebLists can also include passengers who were family members of seamen. Cunard White Star Tourist Class, January 1949. They went ahead with plans for new quay accommodation and worked amicably with Cunard officials. with U.S. troops on a G.I. [13] Cunard's plan was for the ship to be launched in September 1938, with fitting-out intended to be complete for the ship to enter service in the spring of 1940. After 1972 only two 10% samples of crew lists and agreements have been preserved. The QUEEN ELIZABETH encountered a severe storm on 18th October, the day on which Commodore Bisset had arranged a memorial service for Sir Percy Bates. Seesection 7.2. On the return southbound voyages the ships carried Allied wounded, internees or enemy prisoners-of-war, stopping off at Ceylon. As well as state-of-the-art weaponry and communications systems, HMS Queen Elizabeth boasts five gyms, a chapel and a medical centre. 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