5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. To believe a womans place is smaller than a mans is at best silly and at worst disingenuous to what God offers. We must refute and point to the truth! 12:18). 107 quotes from Christine Caine: 'Sometimes when you're in a dark place you think you've been buried, but you've actually been planted.', 'God is able to take the mess of our past and turn it into a message. Christine considers Joyce her spiritual mother: https://michellelesleybooks.com/2016/03/04/chhave-no-regard-for-the-offerings-of-caine/. I just remember holding that toilet brush and doing it as unto God with a passion. I have felt my fervor for studying and deepening my walk with the Lord be VERY attacked by your making a similar comment. I live like a radical because I think we all should. 26 The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. 2Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and encourage with every form of patient instruction. Her work is a testimony of the . Hope 103.2 will be ready to celebrate what's good in society and culture. Just like any Christian today, either male or female. I write this as a Baptist, and so I would argue that the excommunication is a congregational responsibility and not something that pastors can impose alone (e.g., 1 Cor. Christine Caine partners with heretics, promotes them, and endorses them. Read out White Paper on the Word of Faith Movement, Christine Caine, Complementarianism, Elizabeth Prata, Heresy, Hillsong Church, Joyce Meyer, New Age Movement, Occult, Sin, spirituality, Word of Faith. Why do you think you receive this feedback? Paul even confronted Peter to his face about his hypocrisy in front of the fellowship. Here is a Pastrix Caine sermon review. Dont mistake love of the world for the true love of God, His Son, and His scripture. Put out your little warning marker if you need to when you find someone is acting falsely. 3:3). Heck, Christine taught me to get more diligent about making disciples and you found a way to completely trash that. In retrospect, Caine says she had to endure much despair in order to have a story of healing but it was because she ended up learning a lesson she thought she already knew. The surgery in August lasted an hour and when pathology reports came back with no cancerous or precancerous cells in her throat region, Caine says she was grateful but in her selflessness, she knew someone else in her same condition would probably get a different report that day so she prayed for them instead. Karen you just dont get it! Oh, absolutely. "Some of my most precious ministry moments happened in those waiting rooms and hospitals," says Caine. ~ Christine Caine. People who post here are haters and not lovers of Christ! Calling out error in the body is not pride. Anti-trafficking work, church planting, womens networks, speaking, writing is there any part of life that you dont want to tackle? I was at one of her events this weekend and I quote from her message if you are called to be married, you are called to follow. There's not often this instant physical healing. It is articles like this and people like you that make people afraid to go to church.. Id like to know how you find Christine Cains teachings to not be Biblical? It appears to me that this would pretty much demand absolute avoidance. Have the fruit of the Spirit in your marriage. Is it getting people to repent? The way the currents have shifted in society, no matter who you are whether you have a blue check mark [on your social media] like me, or whether youve got five followers is irrelevant. I dont know why I go searching for these articles. 13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. 15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. Kenyons principal disciple was Kenneth Hagin Sr., the recognized father of the Word of Faith movement. If you mean warning of wolves behind pulpits, yes.Its called warning. Husbands arent overseeing their wives writings and teachings, and any attention that they pay to their wives work is not through the lens of Scripture. Paul says: one thing I do: forgetting what is behind and straining towards what is ahead, I press on (Philippians 3:13-14). We can even look to the ways that Christ and the apostle Paul corrected and confronted false teachers, and your method STILL does not hold. No, not really wanting to be right before God by contending for the faith biblically, of that I am guilty! Traveling without your husband and encouraging women to submit to their husbands and follow their husbands leadership in the home! If marriage alone (or in the case of a woman) who wants to minister or have a place in some form of leadership or influence in the church is only legitimized in ministering through the oversight of her husband, then that would appear to be highly problematic for 2 reasons: 1) What then is the role of Jesus as our heavenly/spiritual husband (as emphasized in Mathew 25/ Isaiah 54:5)? Mormonism People are afraid of what they do not understand. I'm basically a Greek Orthodox mother's nightmare: I didn't marry until I was 30, didn't have my first child until I was 35, and I travel the world and teach the Bible. I would ask you to reconsider listening to Meyer or Caine, there are many ladies ministries that are genuine and follow The Lord, if I were you Id seek those out, and always text whats taught against what the Bible really says, scripture twisting is a favorite pastime of wolves everywhere! Am I acting like this? 7:8 & 28), in order to devote whole-hearted service to God without distraction or obligation of the family. Christine Caine partners with heretics, promotes them, and endorses them. Ill call it straight to their face! Weak and shallow theology is taught, and many grab onto it because they do not read Gods word as intended. If you have won souls to Christ this way, or have gotten any of the people you attack to repent, then AMEN. God made us equal. Joel Osteen & Oprah partners Joel promotes her LIFECLASS IAM Little Gods doctorine. The FIRST thing you should do when you have an issue with someone is to confront THEM. The strawman argument youre trying to rope me into wont work with me. As soon as I walked in I knew, This is what I've been wanting all my life. "I had a thyroidectomy last Tuesday. Kenyon (18671948) is usually given credit as the originator of Word of Faith teaching. The couple also run a network of churches in Europe, as well as Propel Women, a ministry that aims to equip women to fulfil their God-given purpose. Pardon me, but I need to focus WAY more on that before someone else. Return to homepage. Loved the circle maker. I think we need to get that place where we can rest in Christ and get our identity and value in Him and not in media or other people. You are also bearing false witness ( you accuse of jealousy, envy and trouble making) and youre judging out of pride and emotion, this is the way Christ forbids us to judge. And I have never heard them condemn anyones teaching like they are being condemned here. It also applies to those Christians that we would be willing to extend the hand of fellowship to outside of our church. Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. The smile on Christine Caine's face is as striking as the shock she felt when she uncovered the secret her parents kept from her. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple And the whole -you are tearing down His Kingdom bit just love till it hurts ,just love , love, love,anything and everything cuz its all about love is pure and utter b.s. But dont call him a missionary, Matt Redman: Reverence in worship has become my lifelong pursuit. Is it winning people to Christ? Take note of how Priscilla, along with her husband, corrected the error of Apollos. Paula White considers Christine a friend, as does Sheryl Brady. One of the scriptures cited here had absolutely no relation to anything i have ever heard Christine say, write or even imply I am referring to your quote of Rev 2:10 How is Christine having a Jezebel manipulation attitude? I leave what doesnt line up with God to God to deal with. Follow Christine on Twitter @ChristineCaine. If you cannot or will not refute those who contradict then you should not be a pastor. Peters bad behavior in this situation had a teaching function, and so Paul says that he had to oppose him to his face and in the presence of all (Gal. So get people into the lifeboat. Many of the people you are tearing down are Gods people and are in the faith, running the race. Shame eats away at the core of who we are. Paul has nothing remotely nice to say about those to purport to speak for Christ. Ive found shame to be a dark, dark thing that impacts everyone from the highest social strata in life, to the most vulnerable and disenfranchised. Progressive (Social Justice) Christianity I thank God for all of the women who followed the call of God and took up their crosses, facing so much opposition in the process. Worse, she enjoys teaching young women to step into leadership roles that scripture forbids and is unashamed to say so. That is the CLEAR difference. Its sad and disappointing that this site calls for us to throw the baby out with the bathwater and ignore Christines call for us to keep winning souls for Christ. ,you obviously need to read what He expects of and from you, and shut your mouth.thats right,shut your mouth if you are serious about God and His word,otherwise keep on truckin down the wrong path thats your decision He gives us free will.And the whole tearing down His Kingdom, as if any of us are capable of actually doing that,are you playing with a full deck?Know it all, feel good self righteous, listening to people and putting your faith in them, and not Him and then running your mouths like you actually know what the h e double L your talking about, but go ahead if you must ,its your choice and if what you desire and want and think should be is the most important to YOU and not what He commands. During the interview, Christine shared the story of how, at the age of . They only care for themselves. I didn't really understand what was going on. The reason is obvious. Hear our latest radio programs including GPS, Hour of Decision Online, and Billy Graham Minute. You seem to be very confident that your approach is Biblical, and in the end, that is what really matters. I imagine you would get a lot more done for the kingdom of you stopped pointing the finger at people and just started loving till it hurts. You are even going by a username that hides your real identity. ), and it is my prayer they will be baptized this Easter. They walked as one for they had mutually agreed to put Christ first. Moreover, the congregation must not behave in any way that might indicate endorsement of their false teaching. See what Paul says of their Ill: 13For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. I have seen words tear apart friendships, relationships, business partnerships, and churches, and so I want to use mine responsibly. I have Matthew 18 to back me up. You can talk very big about what you WILL do, but what Im talking about is what you HAVE and HAVE NOT done. When I was young, I cried out to God in my naivete and innocence, and in my desperation felt he wasn't stopping anything. Thank you, Amy, for cleaning up that mess. Communications advisor to the Export systems department. When people are seeking to resolve conflict by following Matthew 18, I am interested in doing all I can to help seek Godly resolution. Christine Caine shares how she found out that she was adopted.Get Today's Offer From Joyce: https://joycemeyer.org/store Follow Joyce: WEBSITE: https://joycemeyer.org FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/JoyceMeyerMinistries/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/JoyceMeyer/ TWITTER: https://www.twitter.com/JoyceMeyer/ Joyce Meyer, one of the worlds leading practical Bible teachers and New York Times best-selling author, shares encouragement and advice to help us enjoy our daily lives. Women are not meant to be in these positions. I used to come on sites like this and tear down women like Joyce Meyer and Christine Caine, much like you do. But we are supposed to believe be brave enough to call it to their faces? Talk about losing sight of what REALLY matters. There is no direct evidence that Lydia had once been a slave, but the fact that her name is her place of origin rather than a personal name suggests this as at least a possibility. There are several women in the Bible that also were in the ministry to proclaim the gospel. I know because the simple fact that you believe I disagree that Christine Caine, Joyce Meyer, Beth Moore and Priscilla Shirer are false teachers. Those who persist in false teaching present grave spiritual danger and must be opposed. I hope you take time to listen to it because Christine's message is powerful and relevant to so many areas of our lives. The issue is whether we believe God is who he says he is. You are not confronting directly, and you know it. For over thirty years, Christine Caine has shared the hope of Jesus around the world. Visiting Sydney from her California base to attend Hillsong's Colour conference this week, Caine says she was "all in" for Christ from the moment she . I understand a loving nudge in the right direction from a truly loving soul whos purpose in life is to point people towards heaven.. Life is too short, the world is too big and God's love is too great to live ordinary. Personally, we see no reason at all for Priscillas name coming first in half of the Scripture references to her, even though she may recall the wonderful prominence of women in early Christianity, and in martyrdom and service for Christ., (MARIN) Yes, Lydia was the LEADER of her house church and played a key role in getting her family baptized. By calling out heresy and false teaching, we are intended to judge those that call themselves Christians, we are not to judge with bad motives or pride, we are not to judge those outside the church. Im helping girls in the A21 transition homes who have been brutally abused and raped and are so shame-filled, helping them find their identity in Christ and stand on their own two feet, she told Hope 103.2, [but] Ive seen some of those same shame struggles in some of the most successful women, that battle with the shame of trying to balance life, thinking Im at the office too much and Im not the mother or wife I could be or girls that are in their mid 30s or 40s and are single and struggling with shame over that. Jakes accept an invite to speak in a room with some reformed guys in 2012 to discuss his belief in the oneness dcotrine of the church to which he categorically spoke of his background in that momvement and how since then he has moved away from that doctrine toa trinitarian doctrine, he was asked every question of the beliefs of the Chrsitain faith and affirmed them all. Its the old Creator/creature vs. continuity of being thing. Wow, look at all the responses against this, we need to follow what the scriptures say not twist them around, Thank you for the warning, I was caught up in these heretical teachers and I am so happy God gave me discernment and showed me that these people are not teaching but misleading thousands straight to hell. He wasn't helping me. Reading the context as to the time that Timothy was written, women then were NOT allowed to be nor were they educated and that is WHY they were not supposed to teach Gods word. for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh! Again, Peter did not continue in the Judaizing error but was corrected. All of us are prone to drifting if we do not stay connected to Jesus, who is this hope we have as an anchor for our soul.. What does the Church need to do from here? 2023 Hope Media Ltd ABN 94 284 074 898. I think a lot of my past had really caught up with me, and so I was very sceptical about the love and the grace of God. 02816074) and Christian Communication Partnership Ltd (no. The apostle Paul says that willingness to engage this kind of controversy is a qualification for office: He must hold fast the faithful word which is in accordance with the teaching, that he may be able both to exhort in sound doctrine and to refute those who contradict (Titus 1:9). You cant add or take away from the gospel and thats what they are doing. These are the very people that turn people away from God with all their judging and misinterpretation of the bible. God is relational but He is also Almighty God, Yahweh and there are no other gods before Him. We need to be careful not to underestimate how important our response to correction is. Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind. 1 Peter 2:1, Dont grumble against one another, brothers and sisters, or you will be judged. As a matter of fact, Christines call for women to lean in to evangelism in this day and age and to NOT allow the politically chaotic environment to distract or discourage us from our calling to make disciples inspired me to examine the last time I led a lost soul to Christ. So you never know. Our western culture and the western church has become so syncretized with New Age animism that many Christians cant tell the difference. Alison Jones: Dear precious Christian. Drive by poster, she would never back up her statement with scripture, as it would show the lack of discernment and ignorance of those that follow Copeland, Hagin, Osteen, Meyer and every other wolf that teaches that abomination. That is the CLEAR difference. Emma Fowle is assistant editor of Premier Christianity and editor of Voice of Hope, Premier's quarterly devotional magazine. Every single one of them teaches false doctrine, from Sarah Young's blasphemous "channeling" of Jesus, to T.D. Warn them, lovingly. 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